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    September 19, 2012
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responsibilities of the united kingdom and sweden have under the european convention on human rights, if ecuador fears he will be extradited. our home secretary would have to be out of commission for such -- asked for permission for such extradition from sweden to another country am not able to agree to extradition. i think there are some unnecessary fears. we have tried to set my address in ecuador. -- minds at rest in ecuadora lot to continue to try to do that. a lot to continue to try to do that. it is up to them how they wish to proceed. they have given no sign of doing that.
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the request is for extradition for syria's alleged offenses. -- for serious alleged offenses. i don't want to prejudge those in any way. we will fulfill its legal obligation to extradite a person in that situation. >> a couple minutes left. could you update us on the anglo russian relations at the moment. they have been a a bit techy and they tend to go up and down. >> our objective in this government has been to improve our working relationship with russia. clearly we have some differences. we have been discussing one of them today on syria. there are differences on foreign policy. we sometimes have vigorous-- human rights issues.
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we have differences on those as well but it is important to have a working relationship with russia. they are a leading nation in the world, and member of the security council. we have to work with them everyday. as permanent members of the security council. as a personal minister level, we -- at the personal ministerial level, we have created good contact, good relationships. the russian foreign minister to the u.k. last year, it was his first bilateral visit in seven years to the u.k. when i hosted him here. i have been back there this year and the prime minister president putin had a good meeting. we had a great time watching the judo at the olympics but did not make any breakthrough on syria. in the meantime, the businesses are doing well -- british exporting to russia. it is one of our fastest export markets. but we do have concerns.
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we have seen some of them over recent or to human rights issues. i think it is a better working relationship but we have not given any ground for brought about any relaxation of the measures introduced after the murder of alexander. we have not received any satisfaction on that point so we have not changed any measures the of the previous government. the ability to discuss global and bilateral issues is there and we have reinforced that. >> have you expressed an anxiety towards the russian ambassador to the foreign minister about efforts to suppress dissidents, and also the fact that certain members of parliament seem to be singled
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out in the way because there are dissidents. in the are to be targeted. -- then they are to be targeted. do we express views about that? >> we did express our views. the prime minister raised an issue of the pussy riot. -- that punk band. [laughter] >> you were able to identify george michael for me. >> yes, so, i am providing a continuing service. [laughter] the prime minister did raise that with president putin. we do have an actual formal u.k. russia human-rights dialogue. the last one was held here in
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london in july where our officials rose a range of issues, including new legislation, freedom of assembly and expression, the protection of human rights. we do not hold back from raising issues. sometimes have quite a vigorous argument. >> and there will be fewer of you to transfer matters to. you now have two part time ministers. what has been given in extremely large breed -- afghanistan, various others. -- one has been given an extremely large brief. are you confident this is it part time job?
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>> our team has not been reduced in size. next there are six foreign office ministers and the trade minister. there were only for front office ministers in the last government. the ministerial team is much bigger than that was in the last government. it will be an excellent addition to the team and well able because of this is a possibility. -- to cover the responsibilities. i think we've been described in one of the newspapers as the happiest ministerial team. whitehall. i agree with that one. [laughter] we work together so well and that will remain the case with the new members of the team. >>do you have a committee -- thank you very much indeed for coming in today.
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you have been very frank and open andit is much appreciate your >> thank you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> in two weeks, the first of the presidential debates live on c-span, cspan radio, and c- span.org, watch and engage. coming up this morning, a video of the mitt romney fund raiser leaked by mother jones magazine than today's "washington journal" live with your phone calls followed by live coverage of the senate homeland security hearing on terrorist threats with testimony from janet napolitano. >> the country faces the starkest, the starkest choice of president in my memory. you see, the president and i have fundamentally different visions than governor romney and congressman ryan and a different
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value set that guides us. >> under the current president, we are at risk of becoming a poor country because he looks to government as the great benefactor in every life. our opponents have a new model -- they say government is the only thing we all belong to. but it know about you have never thought of government as something that i belong to. >> watch and engage as the campaigns move toward the october debate. the candidates will debate once on thursday, october 11 while the presidential candidates will have 390 minute debates. -- 3-90 minute debate. following our coverage on cspan, cspan radio, and line -- and on line at c-span.org. this weekend, live from the national mall, the 12th annual
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national book festival, two days of presentations and interviews plus your phone calls. go to book-tv.org for schedule information. >> mother jones magazine obtained a video of republican presidential candidate mitt romney at a may 17 fund-raiser in boca raton, florida and released on their website. portions posted online have made headlines especially comments that he made about 47% of americans backing president obama, being the victims who are dependent upon government and pay no income tax. mitt romney has said his comments weren't merely a snippet and not his full response. here is the entire event. this is under one hour.
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>> i would like to spend our time responding to questions you have, listening to advice you might have, occasionally i get envelopes like that. i'm happy to take advice. we will get a chance to do that. i would like your perspective. there are a couple of things you may not know about me.
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our grandchild nast is getting larger. -- nest is getting larger. when i was a been consulted, i met with a larger draft a will and j. s. heller wanted to divide my estate. i said i want to divided equally. she said how much do you want to give to the grandchildren. i said i don't want to give anything to the grandchildren. my sons will give it to their children. she said you will change your mind. i disagree. d. [laughter]
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a love my grandchildren -- i love my grandchildren but i am very concerned about what they're like will be like. i see these two very different scenarios. i see an extraordinary economy here. a vibrant america with freedom and prosperity for the great bulk of the american people. i really see something like you're on the other hand -- europe and the other hand. -- on the other hand. that is one piece about me that you may not know. my dad, you probably know, was governor of michigan and the
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head of a car company but he was born in mexico. if he was born of mexican parents, i would have a better shot at winning this. [laughter] i say that jokingly. elizabeth warren is the woman who is running for u.s. senate in massachusetts. she is a minority faculty member at harvard. it turns out that has yet to be proven. his dad was in construction, very successful in mexico but in america, my dad never had the
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money or college degree. he believed in america and never doubted for a moment that he could achieve his dreams. my wives dad was born in wales. he was a coal miner. he realized there was no future there before he came to detroit. he worked there to save enough money to bring the kids over. he said to be successful in america you have to be an education and they could not afford an education. we all work and we all say the, maybe we can afford to send one of them to college and they sent my wife to death.
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dad. he went to college and got a degree in a program where you work a semester and go to school once a master. -- one semester. i have inherited nothing. we earned it the old-fashioned way. [applause] i say that -- [unintelligible]
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there is a perception that i was born with a silver spoon. i was born with a silver spoon which is the greatest gift you can have an america. -- in america. 75% of life is set up if you were born well in america. there was a factor of employed about 25,000 women they were saving for potential of becoming married and the work force huge factories. as we were walking to this facility, the number of hours they worked, living in dormitories with bathrooms at the end and they had two girls per room.
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three bunk beds and around this factory was a huge defense of barbwire and guards. i could not believe that you keep these girls in. they said this is to keep people from coming in because people want badly to work in the factory. have to keep them out, they said. they said on the chinese new year, the girls say they have saved enough money and on the weekend after chinese new year, there will be a line of hundreds long outside the factory because some girls did not come back. we were experiencing this for the first time.
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this is an amazing land. what we have this unique and we are sharing it with the world. i am concerned about the future but also optimistic. i look forward to get america back on track. i plan to allow immigrants to bring their dreams to this country. we want you here if you are studying to get a ph.d. in america. they want to realize their dreams. there is a global competition of ideas.
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with that, i will turn to you for counsel and advice and questions. if you want to talk about tax policy or political questions -- yes? >> the debates will be coming up. [inaudible] [inaudible] >> the former head of goldman sachs was also the former head of the new york federal reserve. i met with him and he said as soon as the fed stopped buying
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all the debt, we will have a treasury auction and interest rates will have to go up. we are living in this borrowed fantasy world where the government keeps on borrowing money. we borrow an extra $1 trillion per year and who is loaning us this money? the russians are not loaning it to us anymore. we're just making get up. the federal reserve is just making up money. this does not augur well for our economic future. it is not easy for people to understand. >> [inaudible]
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to what extent to people understand that we are heading toward a fiscal cliff? >> they don't get it. they have heard us say it. they read about france and italy and spain. i am making this issue topical for the american people. the economy is the prime issue and number two is the deficit. they recognize we cannot go on forever like this.
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recognize thist tend to be democrats. we want to get the people in the middle and have them understand how a important this is. i did the calculation and "usa today" publishes this every year. if you take the total national debt and unfunded liabilities of medicare and social security, the amount of debt plus unfunded liabilities is $520,000 per household. even though we will not write a check for that amount, they are still paying the interest on that.
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you will be paying taxes not only for the things you wanted your generation but for all the things we spend money on. it is extraordinary to think medicaree don't change or so security, the tax rate is 15.3%. if we don't change those programs, that tax rate will ultimately have to rise to 44%. then there is income tax. then there is state taxes. you end up having to take 100% of people's income. the other side won't talk about reforming social security and medicare.
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the young people look at this and say the only guys or about the future are republicans. the democrats talk about social issues. there won't be any houses like this if we stay on this same road. >> i am a former bostonian. >> uh-oh. >> we totally agree with what you said. say. of like to hear more discussion on what i consider the real position. [inaudible] >> thank you.
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i am standing up so i can see you but you don't have to stop and look at me. look at your food as you are eating it. [laughter] we don't want to put a fork in your finger. you are right, a nuclear iran is unthinkable outcome. not just for our friends in israel and their friends in europe but also for us. iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the world.
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if i was a terrorist, i would bring fissile materials to chicago or another city and of america acts up, use it against us. we really don't have any options except to keep iran from having a nuclear program. we should have put in more crippling sanctions at the beginning of the president's term. we did not. he gave russia the number one foreign policy executive. he gave them that and got nothing in return. i presume he could have gotten them to agree to sanctions against iran and he did not. that is one of the grid is
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foreign policy errors. he should kept a bargaining chip on the table. we should have been aggressively listening to the voices of dissent in iran. we should have aggressively supported them. we should have made it clear that we had military plans if they do not remove their nuclear capabilities. that does not mean that we pull the trigger but we communicate that we are ready to do so. instead, this administration has communicated to the iranians that we're more worried about israel attacking them than we are about them becoming nuclear. it is extraordinary. those are some thoughts directed
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at iran. the president's foreign policy, in my opinion, as a perception that his charm and persuasiveness is so compelling that he can sit down with hugo chavez and a mahmoud ahmadinejad and they will stop doing bad things. it is an extraordinarily naive position. my view is that the centerpiece of american foreign policy has to be its strength. everything i do will be calculated and based on america's strength. when you stand by your allies, you increase your strength. when you stand by your principles, you get stronger.
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when you have a strong economy, you build american strength. everything is about strength. it is speaking softly but carrying a very big stick. this administration speaks loudly but carries a tiny step. that is not the right course for foreign policy. >> you are not eating. >> i am mesmerized. [laughter] >> i saw dr. kissinger and i asked how we were perceived around the world. he said one word, weak. unfortunately, it is no wonder that the leader of north korea
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set up long-range missiles one week after he said he wouldn't. >> [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible]
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[inaudible] [inaudible] >> i appreciate the idea. on a typical day like this when i do three or four things like this, i get a number of foreign policy questions. the american people are not concentrated at all on china or russia or iran or iraq. it is unbankable to let 20 or
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30,000 troops to stay in iraq. we had the hostages in i ran and we had the two helicopters crashed. that was talked about. if something of that nature presents itself, i woke will work to solve the problem. >> [inaudible] how do think the palestinian problem can be solved? >> i am torn by two perspectives.
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i have had one for some time which is that the palestinians have no interest in establishing peace and that the pathway to peace is almost unthinkable to accomplish. it is said the palestinians should set up their own country. the conflict between israel and the west bank is right there. that is about 9 miles from tel aviv to the west bank.
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the other side of the west bank , the iranians would want to do to the west bank what they did through lebanon. they want to bring armaments into the west bank. israel, of course, would have to say that cannot happen. we have to keep the iranians from burning in weapons. -- from bringing in weapons. that means they will control the border between syria and jordan and this new palestinian nation? how about flying into this
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palestinian nation? who will keep the weaponry from coming in? these are problems that are hard to solve. they are committed to the destruction of israel so these create thorny problems. we have a potentially volatile situation in japan.
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i got a call from a former secretary of state and this individual said to me that i think there is a prospect for a settlement between the palestinians and the israelis that to the election. -- after the election. i did not delve into it but the idea of pushing the israelis to give something up is the worst idea and the world. they have done that time and again and it does not work. the only answer is show strength, again. some did the palestinians will reach a point where they want peace, that's where you start the discussion.
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>> [inaudible] i am very concerned about the average american. [inaudible] i talked to former president george h. w. bush 10 years ago.
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right now i am very concerned. [inaudible] after talking to them and explaining things, we cannot change their opinion. on a mass level, what do you want us to do as you're emissaries? what do we do? >> i have good news for you -- it is not impossible. "the new york times" had a poll last week and i was leading by two points. the president's urging the president came out and said it was an outrageous poll.
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women are open to supporting me. they are disappointed. with jobs, they are disappointed with their own economic situation now. we can capture women's votes. if the hispanic vote becomes as committed as the african- american vote, we are in trouble. >> [inaudible] >> we have great hispanic leaders and our party who will help communicate. you just need to raise millions of dollars because the president will do the same period
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>> that's by far the most important thing you do. there will be 150 million americans watching. i will be in those debates. if i do well, it will help. if i don't, it will not. \[applause/] but it makes a difference. the president will engage in a personal character assassination campaign. one,'ll have to fire back in defense, and number two, in offense. that will be one of those things that -- so all the money will be spent in 10 states, and this is one of them. the best thing i can ask you to do. talk to people, work them out.
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make a difference. i'm not terribly well known by the general american public. >> and they -- >> they can say all those negative things. the fact i'm either tied or close to the president, and the fact he's out there talking about the one-year anniversary of osama bin laden, that's very interesting. >> i would disagree with that. i think a lot of people feel let down by the president. >> yeah. >> my question is, to be, why not stick up for yourself and say why is it bad to aspire -- why
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is it bad to supply 30 jobs? my question is, when does that get stated? >> the fact that people who achieve enormous success are better
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off, speaks for a lot. i said that tonight, and the media is there. they write about it. we'll have three debates. there will be ads which attack me. i will fire back in a way that describes -- in the best way we can the fact that if the theme of my speeches are, you know, the ambassador heard me today several times. i wind up talking about how the thing which i find most disappointing in this president is his attack of -- one american against another american. >> yes.
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>> i said, senator rubeo, when he grew up here poor, that they looked at people that had a lot of wealth. and his parents never once said, we need some of what they have. we they should give us some. instead they said, if we work hard and go to school, some day we might be able to have that. \[applause/] how much of that gets picked up? there are so many things that don't get picked up in a campaign, because people aren't watching it. by the way, most people don't watch during the summer. we're going to go into a season here, starting from mid-june, of almost no attention paid. then after labor day, in september and ok, that's when it will get going. >> for the past three years, everybody has been told, don't worry.
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we'll take care of it. how are we going to do it, two months before the elections, to convince everybody you've got to take care of yourself? >> well, there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. there are 47% who are with him. who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them. who believe that they're entitled to health care, to food, to housing, you name it. but that's -- it's an entitlement. and the government should give it to them. and they will vote for this president no matter what. and i mean, the president starts off with 48%, 49%, 40% -- or he starts off with a huge number. these are people who pay no income tax. 47% of americans pay no income taxes. so our message of low taxes doesn't connect. and he'll be out there talking about the tax cuts for the rich. every four years. my job is never to worry about that portion.
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about 45% of the people will vote for republican. 48%, 49%. some are dependent on a motion and whether they like the guy or not. we have the responsibility for the whole world. they're only focused on one little area of the world, the south china sea, the east china sea. that's it. our navy is smaller in the
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number of ships than any time since 1917, and this president wants to shrink it. our air force is older and smaller than at any time since 1947, and he wants to shrink it. if we go the way of europe, spending 1% or 2% of our own the the military, we will not be able to have freedom in the world. >> when the electorate tunes in, in september, the markets are going to be looking at marginal tax rates going up. another debt ceiling fight. the sequestration under debt ceiling. what do they call it? taxageddon. you know, the -- >> the markets are going to be very, very happy.
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if we win on november 6, there will be a great deal of optimism in this country. we'll see capital come back. without even doing anything, we will actually get a boost in the economy. if the president gets re- elected, i don't know what will happen. i can't predict. i any it will be the exact opposite of what i expect. if we get the tax increases on january 1 with this president, and with a congress that can't work together, it's really frightening. >> 54% of american voters think the chinese economy is bigger than the u.s. economy. when i met you four or five weeks ago, you said -- you did the diagram where you went very granular and you said, look, guys, this is a small group. this is it. this is what it is. now are you -- how are you
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going to win if 54% of the voters think china's economy is bigger than our own? or if it costs 4 cents to make a penny and we keak keep making pennies? canada got it right a month ago. why isn't someone saying, stop making pennies. round it to the nearest nickel. that's an easy thing to do, you know, compared to iran. i wanted -- i want to see you take the gloves off and talk to the people that actually read the people. -- read the paper. and care about knowing the facts. as opposed to people who worked swayed -- who are swayed. >> well, i wrote a book that lays out my view for what has to happen in the country, and people who are fascinated by policy will read the book. we have a web site that lays out white papers on a whole series of issues that i care about. i have to tell you, i don't think this will have a
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significant impact on my electability. i wish it did, but i think our ads will have a much bigger impact and the debates will have a big impact. >> i don't even know -- >> that's my point. my dad used to say, being right early is not good in politics. and in a setting like in, a highly intellectual subject on a whole discussion of a whole series of important topics typically doesn't win elections. this president one because of hope and change. i can tell you i have a good team of extraordinaryly experienced, highly successful consultants. a couple of people in particular who have done race reases around the world. these guys are from the u.s.,
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the karl rove quifflents. they do races all over the world. in armenia, africa, israel. i mean, they worked for benjamin netanyahu in his race. and they do these races, and they see which ads work, and which processes work best. and we have ideas about what we do over the course of the campaign. i would tell them to you but i would have to shoot you. >> i think one of the aspects of hope and change that worked well for obama four years ago was he promised to bring us more honest, transparent government in washington. i've been around politics. the first campaign i worked in was barry goldwater's in 1964. so i think the -- thefrom what i've seen in last month because of my own personal involvement in the issue is government in washington right now is permeated by cronyism, corruption. our regulatory agencies are supposed to protect the public are protecting the people that they're supposed to be regulating. and i think it is something that if spun the right way in
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simple terms can resonate with the american people. obama did not keep his promises. pelosi was supposed to give us an honest congress and has given us the opposite. i think the campaign issue can work well. my recommendation would be,
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clean house. s.e.c., f.c.c. are disasters. >> and what i wish we -- i wish we were unionized so we could get a lot deeper than your actually allowed to go. those people i told you, the 5%, 6%, or 7% that we have sort of bring on our side, they all voted for barack obama four years ago. and by the way, when you say to them, do you think barack obama is a failure? they say no, they like him. but when they say, are you disappointed that his policies haven't worked? they say yes. and because they voted for him, they don't want to be told that they are wrong, that he's a bad guy. they want to believe he tried to do the right thing, but he's
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not up to the task. they love the phrase "he's over his head." but we spend our days with people that agree with us. these people are people who voted for him and don't agree with us. so the things that animate us are not the things that animate them. the best response i have found is he said he would bring unemployment below 8%. it hasn't been below 8% since. 50% of the kids coming out of high school can't graduate from high school. what are they going to do? these are the kinds of things that i can say. what he's going to do is villify me as someone who has been successful. he will label me an evil, bad guy.
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that may work. i honestly think right now people are saying, i want someone to make things better. that's going to motivate me. who can get jobs for my kids? i hope to be able to be the one who wins that battle. [question not audible] >> in sweden you'd say johansen. \[laughter/] >> so i think maybe you could reach a lot of new voters. >> well, thank you.
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i have been on "the view" twice now. it went very well. but regis is gone. and i've done the night -- the evening those shows. i've been on letterman a couple of times. i've been on leno more than a couple times. and i was asked to do "saturday night live." i did not do that. in part, you want a -- want to show that you're fun and you're a good person, but you also want to be presidential. "saturday night live" has the potential of looking slapstick and not presidential. >> i agree. >> but "the view" was fine. whoopi goldberg in particular, she said, you know what?
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i think i could vote for you. and i said, "i must have done something really wrong." \[laughter/] >> i was going to say that i think our media strategy that will be sending ann on "the view" and having her sit there. >> yes. i think she is your best advocate. >> got it. >> because she is, i think, your best surrogate. >> yes. >> your best advocate. >> i agree. >> she connects so well. i mean, we talked so much about this, and somebody said, oh, many people think of you as a rich guy. and those of us who know you, know that's not --
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>> i'm as poor as a church mouse, right? >> yeah, yeah. >> so people don't get tired of her. or start attacking. >> i'll tell you, but you will see more of her in the september-october time frame. hillary rosen, you know, attacked her, and that made ann much more visible to the american people, which i think was very helpful. it gave her a platform that she would not have had otherwise. and i agree with you, i think she will be extraordinarily helpful. >> people who friended her on facebook or whatever happened after the rosen thing, just -- that shows you the value of social networking, and just, like, how important media can be.
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>> she is out there. she is ready to raise money in those places. there are some benefits. i will have some desert. \[applause/] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> this morning at 10:00 eastern, janet napolitano will be testifying on the senate homeland security hearing. the senate comes in at 10:00 to work on a veterans' jobs bill and on c-span 3, the senate confirmation hearing for the ambassador to iraq nominee. live coverage begins at 9:30.